# Stripe Payout Diagnostic Guide ## Issue: Payment showing in UI but not in bank account This is **usually normal** - Stripe holds funds before transferring to your bank. Let's diagnose: --- ## Step 1: Verify You're in Live Mode (Not Test Mode) **CRITICAL**: Test mode payments are fake - no real money moves. 1. Go to https://dashboard.stripe.com 2. Look at the top-right corner 3. Check the toggle switch: - **If it says "Test mode ON"**: You're in test mode - no real money - **If it says "Viewing test data"**: Switch to Live mode - **If it says "Live mode" or toggle is OFF/gray**: You're in live mode ✅ **If you were in test mode:** - The $5 payment was a test transaction - No real money was charged - You need to redo the donation in Live mode --- ## Step 2: Check Your Stripe Balance Your Stripe balance shows funds that are available or pending payout. 1. Go to https://dashboard.stripe.com/balance/overview 2. Look for two numbers: ### Available for Payout - **If $0.00**: Funds are still pending - **If $5.00 NZD (or converted amount)**: Funds are ready but not sent yet ### Pending - **Shows funds waiting to become available** - New accounts: 7-14 day hold - Established accounts: 2 day rolling reserve **Normal behavior**: Your $5 should appear in "Pending" first, then move to "Available" after the hold period. --- ## Step 3: Check Payout Schedule 1. Go to https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/payouts 2. Look for **"Payout schedule"** section 3. Check settings: ### Standard Payout Schedule (Most Common): - **Frequency**: Daily, Weekly, or Monthly - **Timing**: "2 business days after charge" (standard) - **Status**: Should say "Automatic payouts enabled" ### What to look for: - ✅ **"Automatic"**: Payouts happen automatically - ❌ **"Manual"**: You must request payouts manually - ⚠️ **"Payouts paused"**: Issue with account - see Step 6 **If set to Manual:** 1. Click "Switch to automatic payouts" 2. Or manually request payout: Balance → "Pay out funds" --- ## Step 4: Verify Bank Account is Connected 1. Go to https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/payouts 2. Scroll to **"Bank accounts and debit cards"** section 3. Check: ### You should see: - ✅ A bank account listed (with last 4 digits) - ✅ Status: "Verified" or "Default" - ✅ Currency: NZD ### If NO bank account listed: 1. Click **"Add bank account"** 2. Enter your NZ bank details: - Account number (format: XX-XXXX-XXXXXXX-XX) - Account holder name - Bank name 3. Verify via micro-deposits (Stripe sends 2 small deposits, you confirm amounts) ### If bank account shows "Verification required": - Check your email for verification instructions from Stripe - You may need to confirm micro-deposit amounts - Or upload bank statement for verification --- ## Step 5: Check Payment Status Let's verify the $5 payment actually succeeded: 1. Go to https://dashboard.stripe.com/payments 2. Look for your $5 NZD payment 3. Click on it to see details ### Check the Status: - ✅ **"Succeeded"**: Payment captured successfully - ⏳ **"Processing"**: Still being processed (rare for card payments) - ❌ **"Failed"** or **"Requires payment method"**: Payment didn't work ### Check the Fee: - Stripe charges fees on each transaction - For NZD: 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction - $5.00 NZD → ~$4.55 NZD net after fees ### Check Available On: - This shows when funds become available for payout - Usually: Payment date + 2 business days - Example: Oct 18 payment → Available Oct 20 (if no weekends) --- ## Step 6: Check Account Status Your account might be restricted or need verification: 1. Go to https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/account 2. Look for banners or alerts at the top 3. Check **"Account status"** section ### Common issues: - ⚠️ **"Verification required"**: Need to provide business documents - ⚠️ **"Payouts paused"**: Account under review - ⚠️ **"Risk review"**: Flagged for unusual activity ### Required information: - Business type (Individual / Company) - Business details (name, address, URL) - Personal information (ID verification) - Bank account verification **If verification required:** - Click the banner or alert - Follow the steps to submit required documents - Verification usually takes 1-2 business days --- ## Step 7: Timeline - When to Expect Payout Here's the typical timeline for a new Stripe account: ### Day 0 (Today - Oct 18): - ✅ Customer pays $5 NZD - ✅ Payment appears in Stripe Dashboard - ✅ Payment appears in your Tractatus UI - ❌ **No payout yet** - this is normal ### Day 0-7: - Funds in "Pending" balance - **New accounts**: 7-14 day initial hold period - **This is Stripe's risk mitigation for new accounts** ### Day 7-14: - Funds move from "Pending" to "Available" - Automatic payout scheduled ### Day 9-16: - **Payout sent to your bank account** - Bank processing: 1-3 business days - **Money appears in your bank account** ### Timeline Summary: - **New Stripe account**: 7-14 days until first payout - **Established account (after 90 days)**: 2 days - **Weekends/holidays add extra days** --- ## Step 8: How to Check Scheduled Payouts 1. Go to https://dashboard.stripe.com/payouts 2. You should see a list of payouts ### What you might see: - **"In transit"**: Payout sent to bank, waiting for bank processing - **"Paid"**: Successfully received by bank - **"Scheduled"**: Future payout queued - **Empty list**: No payouts scheduled yet (if balance still pending) --- ## Quick Diagnostic Checklist Run through this checklist: - [ ] I'm in **Live mode** (not test mode) - [ ] Payment shows **"Succeeded"** in Stripe Dashboard - [ ] Payment amount is correct: $5 NZD - [ ] Balance shows funds in **"Pending"** or **"Available"** - [ ] Bank account is **connected and verified** - [ ] Payout schedule is set to **"Automatic"** - [ ] Account status is **"Active"** (no verification required) - [ ] I understand the **7-14 day hold** for new accounts --- ## Expected Outcome for New Account **This is completely normal:** 1. ✅ Oct 18: Payment succeeded ($5 NZD) 2. ✅ Oct 18: Shows in Tractatus transparency dashboard 3. ✅ Oct 18-25: Funds held in "Pending" balance 4. ⏳ Oct 25-28: Funds become "Available" 5. ⏳ Oct 26-29: Automatic payout sent to bank 6. ⏳ Oct 27-30: **Money appears in your bank account** **Stripe's reasoning:** - New accounts have longer holds to prevent fraud - After 90 days of good history, holds reduce to 2 days - This protects both you and customers from chargebacks --- ## If Money Still Missing After 14 Days 1. **Check Stripe Balance**: https://dashboard.stripe.com/balance - Should be $0 if payout completed - Should show amount if still pending 2. **Check Payouts**: https://dashboard.stripe.com/payouts - Should show "Paid" status - Should show payout date 3. **Check Bank Statement**: - Look for "STRIPE" or "Stripe Payments" - Amount might be slightly less due to fees - Can take 1-3 business days after "Paid" status 4. **Contact Stripe Support**: - https://dashboard.stripe.com/support - Provide payment ID and payout ID - They can trace the exact status --- ## Testing Without Waiting If you want to verify the system works without waiting 14 days: ### Option 1: Request Manual Payout (if available) 1. Go to Balance → "Pay out funds" 2. Only works if funds are "Available" (not "Pending") ### Option 2: Check Test Mode First 1. Switch to Test mode 2. Make a test donation 3. Verify it appears in database and UI 4. This confirms the integration works 5. Live mode will work the same way (just with real money) --- ## Common Misconceptions ❌ **"Payment succeeded = money in bank immediately"** - Payments go to Stripe balance first - Then Stripe pays out on schedule - Total time: 2-14 days depending on account age ❌ **"Test mode payments are real"** - Test mode uses fake card numbers - No real money moves - Use live mode for real payments ❌ **"Stripe balance = bank balance"** - These are separate - Stripe holds funds temporarily - Bank receives scheduled payouts --- ## Next Steps 1. **Check if you're in Live mode** (Step 1) 2. **Verify bank account is connected** (Step 4) 3. **Check payment succeeded** (Step 5) 4. **Check account status** (Step 6) 5. **Wait 7-14 days for first payout** (Step 7) **If everything looks correct**: Just wait. This is normal for new Stripe accounts. **If something is wrong**: Follow the specific step where you found an issue. --- **Document Created**: 2025-10-18 **Your Payment Date**: 2025-10-18 **Expected Payout**: 2025-10-25 to 2025-11-01 (first time) **Future Payouts**: 2 days after payment (after account is established)